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by Justice4all on Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:22 pm
Jail Friend: Casey Described Using Chloroform
Updated: 6:38 pm EDT April 16, 2010
OCALA, Fla. -- A young woman who was one of Casey Anthony's jailhouse friends spoke exclusively to WFTV on Friday in her first one-on-one interview. She said Casey described how she used to knock her daughter Caylee out with chloroform.
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VIDEO REPORT: Casey’s Jail Friend Talks
Derkovic told WFTV detectives only got part of the story. She told WFTV brand new information during an exclusive interview Friday morning.
Derkovic turned herself in and got 30 years instead of the death penalty for murdering another teenager four years ago. Derkovic and others at the jail thought she would have the best chance of convincing Casey to come clean.
Derkovic talked with Kathi Belich at the Lowell Correctional Institution in Ocala for an hour and a half and she answered questions about her communication with accused killer Casey Anthony.
“She said she used to knock the baby out so she could go party and she would put her to sleep. When she'd come back, the baby would still be asleep,” Derkovic said.
She told investigators she didn't know how Casey knocked out Caylee, but Belich asked her.
“Did she say what she used to knock her out?” she asked.
“I can't pronounce it. Chlorofoam?” Derkovic said.
She said she doesn't know where Casey got it, but knows how she used it.
“She would pour it on, like, a rag, a washrag, and put it over the baby's face so she'd inhale it and that would knock her out,” Derkovic said.
Belich asked Derkovic why she hadn't mentioned chloroform to investigators.
“I just want to be clear. Do you remember telling them that?” Belich asked.
“Probably not. Because, like I said, I can barely pronounce the name. I know it's drugs,” she said.
Derkovic described Casey's resentment about the attention her mother shifted to Caylee, once she was born, as being like sibling rivalry.
“She would say, ‘What's so special about Caylee? Why didn't she care about me like that?’ Stuff like that,” Derkovic said.
Derkovic said Casey was jealous of the relationship between Cindy and Caylee.
“When Caylee was born, Caylee was the center of attention, ‘cause she was the baby. It's kind of like siblings. When the new one comes along, the older ones feel left out,” Derkovic said.
Derkovic said Casey was happy-go-lucky in jail and always smiling.
“Did she ever say she was upset in the jail and she couldn't look for Caylee or nobody was doing enough to find Caylee?” Belich asked. “Or anything like that?”
“No, Derkovic said.
Derkovic said she turned herself in because it was the right thing to do and tried to get Casey to open up about what happened to Caylee.
“Nothing I ever said to her really registered,” Derkovic said.
“But when you would do that, she didn't say, ‘I didn't do it’?” Belich asked.
“No, she didn't say that either. She wouldn't say, like, ‘It's not me. It's somebody else. I need to get out of here and find them.’ She never said that. Not once,” Derkovic said.
Derkovic said she called investigators around Thanksgiving last year, because “it was the right thing to do” concerning the murder of a child. She insists she has no intention of asking for time off her 30-year sentence.
http://www.wftv.com/news/23175967/detail.html
Updated: 6:38 pm EDT April 16, 2010
OCALA, Fla. -- A young woman who was one of Casey Anthony's jailhouse friends spoke exclusively to WFTV on Friday in her first one-on-one interview. She said Casey described how she used to knock her daughter Caylee out with chloroform.
FRIEND TALKS: Part 1 | Part 2 | Images
VIDEO REPORT: Casey’s Jail Friend Talks
Derkovic told WFTV detectives only got part of the story. She told WFTV brand new information during an exclusive interview Friday morning.
Derkovic turned herself in and got 30 years instead of the death penalty for murdering another teenager four years ago. Derkovic and others at the jail thought she would have the best chance of convincing Casey to come clean.
Derkovic talked with Kathi Belich at the Lowell Correctional Institution in Ocala for an hour and a half and she answered questions about her communication with accused killer Casey Anthony.
“She said she used to knock the baby out so she could go party and she would put her to sleep. When she'd come back, the baby would still be asleep,” Derkovic said.
She told investigators she didn't know how Casey knocked out Caylee, but Belich asked her.
“Did she say what she used to knock her out?” she asked.
“I can't pronounce it. Chlorofoam?” Derkovic said.
She said she doesn't know where Casey got it, but knows how she used it.
“She would pour it on, like, a rag, a washrag, and put it over the baby's face so she'd inhale it and that would knock her out,” Derkovic said.
Belich asked Derkovic why she hadn't mentioned chloroform to investigators.
“I just want to be clear. Do you remember telling them that?” Belich asked.
“Probably not. Because, like I said, I can barely pronounce the name. I know it's drugs,” she said.
Derkovic described Casey's resentment about the attention her mother shifted to Caylee, once she was born, as being like sibling rivalry.
“She would say, ‘What's so special about Caylee? Why didn't she care about me like that?’ Stuff like that,” Derkovic said.
Derkovic said Casey was jealous of the relationship between Cindy and Caylee.
“When Caylee was born, Caylee was the center of attention, ‘cause she was the baby. It's kind of like siblings. When the new one comes along, the older ones feel left out,” Derkovic said.
Derkovic said Casey was happy-go-lucky in jail and always smiling.
“Did she ever say she was upset in the jail and she couldn't look for Caylee or nobody was doing enough to find Caylee?” Belich asked. “Or anything like that?”
“No, Derkovic said.
Derkovic said she turned herself in because it was the right thing to do and tried to get Casey to open up about what happened to Caylee.
“Nothing I ever said to her really registered,” Derkovic said.
“But when you would do that, she didn't say, ‘I didn't do it’?” Belich asked.
“No, she didn't say that either. She wouldn't say, like, ‘It's not me. It's somebody else. I need to get out of here and find them.’ She never said that. Not once,” Derkovic said.
Derkovic said she called investigators around Thanksgiving last year, because “it was the right thing to do” concerning the murder of a child. She insists she has no intention of asking for time off her 30-year sentence.
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Re: Jail Friend Maya Derkovic
by Cali on Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:37 am
Anything Casey said since incarcination, or is quoted by another inmate, is questionable. Lies!
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Re: Jail Friend Maya Derkovic
by LottieM on Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:40 am
I agree with your post, AJ.
It's all a set-up to hide the real cause of death.
Makes you wonder what's so important, huh?
It's all a set-up to hide the real cause of death.
Makes you wonder what's so important, huh?
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Re: Jail Friend Maya Derkovic
by Snaz on Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:15 pm
Opinion piece.......
Maya the Liar and other TV Deceptions by Peter Hyatt
Wednesday, April 21, 2010
Maya Derkovic, jailhouse snitch, has come forward as the latest in a parade of characters marching before the press.
She was interviewed a year ago by law enforcement and didn't tell them about the chloroform.
Now, in an interview with Kathi Belich of WFTV, she explains why.
She wasn't able to pronounce the word "chloroform."
Maya is a young woman who, as a teen gang member, choked to death a 15 year old girl who played basketball for Christian prep.
She said she came forth because her conscience bothered her and now with a 30 year sentence, has "nothing" to gain by revealing information about Casey Anthony to the media.
This leaves us with a few issues:
1. Sensory Language or its absence
2. the absence of any intimiate or unknown details of Casey Anthony's life
3. The gain, finding, or seeing of "nothing" or "no one" in Statement Analysis, in an open statement.
1. Sensory language.
Sensory language is a general sign of veractiy. I have conducted hundreds and hundreds of interviews with children. I listened to my own 5 year old daughter spin fantastic tales of dirty dress, no food, and a pony without a home (anyone watch Shirley Temple movies?) to child protective workers "practicing" their child interview skills.
Children as well as mentally handicapped adults are incredibly vulnerable to suggestibility.
The inclusion of sensory language is a sign of veractiy, even for a child who cannot remember dates and specifics.
One detective trained in Statement Analysis responded to a rape that did not appear to be credible. The investigators concluded that the victim's story simply was implausible.
Yet, there was one thing that stuck out to the trained detective; the victim's description of the alleged perpetrator's hands smelling like motor oil.
In our memory, a sensory (sight, smell, touch, taste, sound) remains with us, long after details have faded.
I recently smelled chlorine (not to be confused with chloroform) and it immediately broutht me back 40 years to my youth, and the summers wonderfully spent swimming in a community pool. I had long forgotten the pool, but this one smell of chlorine brought me back with startling clarity.
Maya didn't offer any sensory details. Surely as Casey Anthony would have described killing her own child with chloroform, she would have used words to describe how she felt as she watched the life run from her daughther, or perhaps a sensory description of poor little Caylee's reaction to seeing, for the last time, the rage (or was it delight?) in the eyes of the one person she should have been able to trust in this world, as the life was snuffed from her.
"I heard her girgling for air..." or "I felt my heart pounding in my chest..." or anything. Maya does not have anything to offer.
Is Maya telling the truth because she looks up at Kathi's eyes? There must be more to discernment than this.
2. There are no details that we who have followed the case on television have not already heard!
If Maya had intimate conversations with someone as unbearably selfish as Casey (remember we are talking about a young woman who text'd 21 out of 24 hours in a day, who spilled out her mind with abandon. Solomon said only the "fool uttereth all his mind" and Casey was a fool. She reminds me of the character of "Kelly" on the office.
"Jim" says to "Kelly", "What's new in your life?"
"Kelly" says "Brad and Angelina adopted a baby!".
"Jim" says, "yeah, that's great, but what's new in YOUR life?"
"Kelly" answers him, "I just told you!"
Casey Anthony was a raging, self serving, manipulating, Class A liar. A Class A, or a "true liar" is a rare person who is able to not simply lie in a response, but one who is quickly and readily able to fabricate reality.
It is like saying to your son, "Did you take that cookie that Mom said not to?" only to have him answer, "Who? Me? Dad, my friend, Bob, who you never met, with his sister, Susan, came over and baked a cake for me. Mom didn't see them use the oven because they were so quick about it. It was a yellow cake, with vanilla icing, and the decoration was blue and..."
Huh?
Casey is not only a liar who fabricates reality (with loads of extra details, which, the dopey liar thinks adds credibility, but in reality, it is a red flag for deception), but she is an incessant yakker.
She talks like a valley girl, in abbreviated sentences, using a generous helping of "like" to describe almost, well, like, almost everything!
I think it is reasonable to believe that Casey would have given SOME detail about her life, or her family that wasn't already known by the public!
Intimate conversations that just conveniently fall into the category of EVERYTHING that has already been on the Nancy Grace show? Please!
3. This brings me to a third point, and it is a principle of Statement Analysis.
It is the evidence of non evidence? Or, is it non evidence of evidence?
Huh? I lost myself here.
In an open statement, "nothing" can not happen. When someone reports something in the negative, in an open statement (in other words, NOT prompted by the interviewer) they can only tell us WHAT they heard, WHAT they saw, and WHAT happened, but cannot tell us what DID NOT happen.
When someone reports what they DID NOT see, or what DID NOT happen, we have a rule:
If someone tells you "nothing" happened; something happened!
I know this will come with a bit of pain to some of you, but when your significant other says to you, "Nothing happened!", you now know that it is impossible for "nothing" to "happen" and can know that deception is present.
Here is an example.
A security guard reported a theft. In his statement to police, every sentence he spoke was truthful; yet, he left out one thing: he himself was the thief!
He said that on that night, he was the "only guard on duty", and that he "found the door open, and the safe open."
He said, "I saw no strangers that night."
True enough. He saw the door open He saw the safe open and even reported that money was missing.
But added to this, he reported that he saw "no strangers" that night.
True again.
The two men he saw were off duty guards who partnered with him in the crime! He saw "no strangers" as both were well known to him.
Or, for another example:
"I heard a gun shot. I found my husband lying in a pool of blood."
True, but she failed to mention that she had shot him.
"I saw nothing suspicious."
It wasn't suspcious because there was no mystery, nor anything out of place. She had the gun, she shot him and she did find him lying in a pool of blood. Nothing mysterious or suspicious because she had no need to "suspect" anyone; she had shot and killed her own hubby.
Maya Derkovic said she had "nothing" to gain. Since we know that "nothing" cannot be gained, she is telling us she has something to gain; if nothing else, a few hours change in life and some jail "cred" with other inmates? Who knows? I don't know and it doesn't matter what her motive may be. She will neither add to the case, nor take away from the case. A slam dunk case is just that: a slam dunk.
The remainder of the piece is regarding the HaLeigh Cummings case.... read it here:
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/04/maya-liar-and-other-deceptions-by-peter.html
Maya the Liar and other TV Deceptions by Peter Hyatt
Wednesday, April 21, 2010
Maya Derkovic, jailhouse snitch, has come forward as the latest in a parade of characters marching before the press.
She was interviewed a year ago by law enforcement and didn't tell them about the chloroform.
Now, in an interview with Kathi Belich of WFTV, she explains why.
She wasn't able to pronounce the word "chloroform."
Maya is a young woman who, as a teen gang member, choked to death a 15 year old girl who played basketball for Christian prep.
She said she came forth because her conscience bothered her and now with a 30 year sentence, has "nothing" to gain by revealing information about Casey Anthony to the media.
This leaves us with a few issues:
1. Sensory Language or its absence
2. the absence of any intimiate or unknown details of Casey Anthony's life
3. The gain, finding, or seeing of "nothing" or "no one" in Statement Analysis, in an open statement.
1. Sensory language.
Sensory language is a general sign of veractiy. I have conducted hundreds and hundreds of interviews with children. I listened to my own 5 year old daughter spin fantastic tales of dirty dress, no food, and a pony without a home (anyone watch Shirley Temple movies?) to child protective workers "practicing" their child interview skills.
Children as well as mentally handicapped adults are incredibly vulnerable to suggestibility.
The inclusion of sensory language is a sign of veractiy, even for a child who cannot remember dates and specifics.
One detective trained in Statement Analysis responded to a rape that did not appear to be credible. The investigators concluded that the victim's story simply was implausible.
Yet, there was one thing that stuck out to the trained detective; the victim's description of the alleged perpetrator's hands smelling like motor oil.
In our memory, a sensory (sight, smell, touch, taste, sound) remains with us, long after details have faded.
I recently smelled chlorine (not to be confused with chloroform) and it immediately broutht me back 40 years to my youth, and the summers wonderfully spent swimming in a community pool. I had long forgotten the pool, but this one smell of chlorine brought me back with startling clarity.
Maya didn't offer any sensory details. Surely as Casey Anthony would have described killing her own child with chloroform, she would have used words to describe how she felt as she watched the life run from her daughther, or perhaps a sensory description of poor little Caylee's reaction to seeing, for the last time, the rage (or was it delight?) in the eyes of the one person she should have been able to trust in this world, as the life was snuffed from her.
"I heard her girgling for air..." or "I felt my heart pounding in my chest..." or anything. Maya does not have anything to offer.
Is Maya telling the truth because she looks up at Kathi's eyes? There must be more to discernment than this.
2. There are no details that we who have followed the case on television have not already heard!
If Maya had intimate conversations with someone as unbearably selfish as Casey (remember we are talking about a young woman who text'd 21 out of 24 hours in a day, who spilled out her mind with abandon. Solomon said only the "fool uttereth all his mind" and Casey was a fool. She reminds me of the character of "Kelly" on the office.
"Jim" says to "Kelly", "What's new in your life?"
"Kelly" says "Brad and Angelina adopted a baby!".
"Jim" says, "yeah, that's great, but what's new in YOUR life?"
"Kelly" answers him, "I just told you!"
Casey Anthony was a raging, self serving, manipulating, Class A liar. A Class A, or a "true liar" is a rare person who is able to not simply lie in a response, but one who is quickly and readily able to fabricate reality.
It is like saying to your son, "Did you take that cookie that Mom said not to?" only to have him answer, "Who? Me? Dad, my friend, Bob, who you never met, with his sister, Susan, came over and baked a cake for me. Mom didn't see them use the oven because they were so quick about it. It was a yellow cake, with vanilla icing, and the decoration was blue and..."
Huh?
Casey is not only a liar who fabricates reality (with loads of extra details, which, the dopey liar thinks adds credibility, but in reality, it is a red flag for deception), but she is an incessant yakker.
She talks like a valley girl, in abbreviated sentences, using a generous helping of "like" to describe almost, well, like, almost everything!
I think it is reasonable to believe that Casey would have given SOME detail about her life, or her family that wasn't already known by the public!
Intimate conversations that just conveniently fall into the category of EVERYTHING that has already been on the Nancy Grace show? Please!
3. This brings me to a third point, and it is a principle of Statement Analysis.
It is the evidence of non evidence? Or, is it non evidence of evidence?
Huh? I lost myself here.
In an open statement, "nothing" can not happen. When someone reports something in the negative, in an open statement (in other words, NOT prompted by the interviewer) they can only tell us WHAT they heard, WHAT they saw, and WHAT happened, but cannot tell us what DID NOT happen.
When someone reports what they DID NOT see, or what DID NOT happen, we have a rule:
If someone tells you "nothing" happened; something happened!
I know this will come with a bit of pain to some of you, but when your significant other says to you, "Nothing happened!", you now know that it is impossible for "nothing" to "happen" and can know that deception is present.
Here is an example.
A security guard reported a theft. In his statement to police, every sentence he spoke was truthful; yet, he left out one thing: he himself was the thief!
He said that on that night, he was the "only guard on duty", and that he "found the door open, and the safe open."
He said, "I saw no strangers that night."
True enough. He saw the door open He saw the safe open and even reported that money was missing.
But added to this, he reported that he saw "no strangers" that night.
True again.
The two men he saw were off duty guards who partnered with him in the crime! He saw "no strangers" as both were well known to him.
Or, for another example:
"I heard a gun shot. I found my husband lying in a pool of blood."
True, but she failed to mention that she had shot him.
"I saw nothing suspicious."
It wasn't suspcious because there was no mystery, nor anything out of place. She had the gun, she shot him and she did find him lying in a pool of blood. Nothing mysterious or suspicious because she had no need to "suspect" anyone; she had shot and killed her own hubby.
Maya Derkovic said she had "nothing" to gain. Since we know that "nothing" cannot be gained, she is telling us she has something to gain; if nothing else, a few hours change in life and some jail "cred" with other inmates? Who knows? I don't know and it doesn't matter what her motive may be. She will neither add to the case, nor take away from the case. A slam dunk case is just that: a slam dunk.
The remainder of the piece is regarding the HaLeigh Cummings case.... read it here:
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/04/maya-liar-and-other-deceptions-by-peter.html
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Re: Jail Friend Maya Derkovic
by Snaz on Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:37 pm
Call between Casey’s pen pal, Orange Co. Corrections obtained
By Adam Longo, Reporter
Last Updated: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 6:44 PM
ORLANDO -- New details are emerging about the women who befriended Casey Anthony behind bars.
A phone call with one of those women, obtained exclusively by News 13, is giving us a better picture of how those inmates communicated behind bars.
This call is a recording between Maya Derkovic, one of Casey Anthony's alleged pen pals, and a captain with Orange County Corrections.
News 13 told you in early July that Silva Hernandez, a corrections officer, was fired for essentially facilitating the relationship between Anthony and the other inmates.
Read more: http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/132384/Call-between-Casey%E2%80%99s-pen-pal-Orange-Co-Corrections-obtained
By Adam Longo, Reporter
Last Updated: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 6:44 PM
ORLANDO -- New details are emerging about the women who befriended Casey Anthony behind bars.
A phone call with one of those women, obtained exclusively by News 13, is giving us a better picture of how those inmates communicated behind bars.
This call is a recording between Maya Derkovic, one of Casey Anthony's alleged pen pals, and a captain with Orange County Corrections.
News 13 told you in early July that Silva Hernandez, a corrections officer, was fired for essentially facilitating the relationship between Anthony and the other inmates.
Read more: http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/132384/Call-between-Casey%E2%80%99s-pen-pal-Orange-Co-Corrections-obtained
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Re: Jail Friend Maya Derkovic
by Snaz on Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:42 pm
Snipped from the above referenced article:
Should be interesting.......
On News 13 at 9 p.m., you'll hear about how Anthony and another inmate were allowed time together, and you won't believe what the corrections officer let them do.
Should be interesting.......
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Re: Jail Friend Maya Derkovic
by Snaz on Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:47 pm
Snipped from the updated cfnews13 article:
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/132384/Call-between-Casey%E2%80%99s-pen-pal-Orange-Co-Corrections-obtained
Last Updated: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 9:24 PM
In the exclusive recording, inmate Maya Derkovic tells an Orange County Corrections captain how they would all communicate with each other, even though they weren't supposed to.
Watts: Tell me about your relationship, uh, with Officer Hernandez.
Orange County Corrections Capt. Anthony Watts was investigating Corrections Officer Silvia Hernandez after allegations surfaced she was facilitating a friendship between three inmates in protective custody -- Robin Adams, Maya Derkovic and Anthony.
Derkovic: We were the ones that stayed there for the longest and talked to each other through the doors, through the vents, through letters and we just became friends.
Watts: So you guys did consider yourselves friends?
Derkovic: Yes sir.
Hernandez involvement came to light after an FDLE interview revealed she was allowing the inmates to talk and pass notes.
Watts: Did you ever observe, um, inmate Anthony and inmate Adams -- do you know those two inmates?
Derkovic: Yes sir.
Watts: Did you ever observe them passing notes with each other?
Derkovic: Yes sir.
Watts: Tell me a little bit about that.
Derkovic: Um, well, it would either be through a trustee that they would pass notes. or, it would be when one comes out the cell, one will pass the note. Because, sometimes I'd pass the note between them too. I was friends with both of them. So we, any, any chance we had, we would pass a note, either through a trustee or when we come out ourselves.
In another incident that violated jail policy .. Anthony and Adams were allowed time alone with each other.
Watts: What about them cutting each other's hair?
Derkovic: No, I don't recall that. It might have happened without me noticing, but never saw it happen.
http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/august/132384/Call-between-Casey%E2%80%99s-pen-pal-Orange-Co-Corrections-obtained
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